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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Will U.S get metered internet Reply with quote

hey guys I'm doing a project on Canada's metered internet and I am wonder why U.S hasn't picked up on this scam is there a law or something preventing it from happening? thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Companies everywhere do the same thing, it's not like people pay for 'internet' and BAM! get any speed they want.

You're paying for 6Mbps down, so your 700kbps torrent is using up all of your bandwidth. Obviously if your torrent is only going at 300kbps, you still have an additional 450kbps that is unused, so you can take advantage of that to run your games or stream videos.

If you pay for faster internet, then you get faster internet and that's how its supposed to be. But of course, scumbags in Canada are now metering the amount of data we use too, and charging exorbitant prices for it. Gonna change my ISP to a smaller company next month that offers 15mbps down 1mbps up with unlimited bandwidth for the same price as my shitty 5mbps down 0.5mbps up with 25GB bandwidth cap from a large company (Bell).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Companies everywhere do the same thing, it's not like people pay for 'internet' and BAM! get any speed they want.

You're paying for 6Mbps down, so your 700kbps torrent is using up all of your bandwidth. Obviously if your torrent is only going at 300kbps, you still have an additional 450kbps that is unused, so you can take advantage of that to run your games or stream videos.

If you pay for faster internet, then you get faster internet and that's how its supposed to be. But of course, scumbags in Canada are now metering the amount of data we use too, and charging exorbitant prices for it. Gonna change my ISP to a smaller company next month that offers 15mbps down 1mbps up with unlimited bandwidth for the same price as my shitty 5mbps down 0.5mbps up with 25GB bandwidth cap from a large company (Bell).
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but last time I checked 700 - 300 =/= 450.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Companies everywhere do the same thing, it's not like people pay for 'internet' and BAM! get any speed they want.

You're paying for 6Mbps down, so your 700kbps torrent is using up all of your bandwidth. Obviously if your torrent is only going at 300kbps, you still have an additional 450kbps that is unused, so you can take advantage of that to run your games or stream videos.

If you pay for faster internet, then you get faster internet and that's how its supposed to be. But of course, scumbags in Canada are now metering the amount of data we use too, and charging exorbitant prices for it. Gonna change my ISP to a smaller company next month that offers 15mbps down 1mbps up with unlimited bandwidth for the same price as my shitty 5mbps down 0.5mbps up with 25GB bandwidth cap from a large company (Bell).
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but last time I checked 700 - 300 =/= 450.


Last time I checked 1 megabit = 0.125 megabytes = 750 kilobytes.

750-300 = 450.

I'm saying the 700kbps was taking up his entire bandwidth as a loosely general term because obviously download speeds fluctuate, plus as a torrent, you upload while you download as well.

Derp.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Im getting 12Mbs down 1mb up 90 gig limit for 50-60ish but i get nowhere near those speeds on torrents they are way throttled here im with Bell btw Sad i want TekSavvy but I'm on a 1 year contract

but are you saying America isn't metered now because the speeds are too slow?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArcaneKnite wrote:
Phox wrote:
ArcaneKnite wrote:
Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Companies everywhere do the same thing, it's not like people pay for 'internet' and BAM! get any speed they want.

You're paying for 6Mbps down, so your 700kbps torrent is using up all of your bandwidth. Obviously if your torrent is only going at 300kbps, you still have an additional 450kbps that is unused, so you can take advantage of that to run your games or stream videos.

If you pay for faster internet, then you get faster internet and that's how its supposed to be. But of course, scumbags in Canada are now metering the amount of data we use too, and charging exorbitant prices for it. Gonna change my ISP to a smaller company next month that offers 15mbps down 1mbps up with unlimited bandwidth for the same price as my shitty 5mbps down 0.5mbps up with 25GB bandwidth cap from a large company (Bell).
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but last time I checked 700 - 300 =/= 450.


Last time I checked 1 megabit = 0.125 megabytes = 750 kilobytes.

750-300 = 450.

I'm saying the 700kbps was taking up his entire bandwidth as a loosely general term because obviously download speeds fluctuate, plus as a torrent, you upload while you download as well.

Derp.
Well, you checked wrong.

Over the internet, 1 megabit = 0.1 megabyte.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Im getting 12Mbs down 1mb up 90 gig limit for 50-60ish but i get nowhere near those speeds on torrents they are way throttled here im with Bell btw :( i want TekSavvy but I'm on a 1 year contract

but are you saying America isn't metered now because the speeds are too slow?
No, they just are not metered. You pay for speed rather than how much you can download. Theres a stream called toonami aftermath and I have talked to the owner. He gets 25mb upload and 50mb download or some shit with Verizon. It just depends on what you pay for. And he hosts 3 different bandwidth versions of the stream too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
ArcaneKnite wrote:
Phox wrote:
ArcaneKnite wrote:
Hero wrote:
No law. America meters speed over amount and throttles you with shit bandwidth. So if 1 person is streaming youtube at 720p in my house my internet throttles and slows down to near nothing. If im downloading a torrent and the fastest I get is 700kbps, it also throttles, but if I keep it capped at like 300kbps everything works fine, besides video streaming is slow, even gaming while downloading is fine. Not really sure why that is.

My speed is 6mb down and 1mb up, and prior to this I had comcast and got 16mb down and 8mb up, but I also payed double what I am now. It depends on what you pay, who you are paying, and location.


Companies everywhere do the same thing, it's not like people pay for 'internet' and BAM! get any speed they want.

You're paying for 6Mbps down, so your 700kbps torrent is using up all of your bandwidth. Obviously if your torrent is only going at 300kbps, you still have an additional 450kbps that is unused, so you can take advantage of that to run your games or stream videos.

If you pay for faster internet, then you get faster internet and that's how its supposed to be. But of course, scumbags in Canada are now metering the amount of data we use too, and charging exorbitant prices for it. Gonna change my ISP to a smaller company next month that offers 15mbps down 1mbps up with unlimited bandwidth for the same price as my shitty 5mbps down 0.5mbps up with 25GB bandwidth cap from a large company (Bell).
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but last time I checked 700 - 300 =/= 450.


Last time I checked 1 megabit = 0.125 megabytes = 750 kilobytes.

750-300 = 450.

I'm saying the 700kbps was taking up his entire bandwidth as a loosely general term because obviously download speeds fluctuate, plus as a torrent, you upload while you download as well.

Derp.
Well, you checked wrong.

Over the internet, 1 megabit = 0.1 megabyte.


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To achieve a transfer rate of one megabyte (1000kB) per second one needs a network connection with a transfer rate of eight megabits per second. This can be confusing for internet users assuming the values are in kilobytes and megabytes per second. If one goes to buy a 2 megabit per second internet plan, they are really only getting a 250 kilobyte per second plan.


Plus, when googling megabit to megabyte it gives the same thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Will U.S get metered internet Reply with quote

DSSHHM wrote:
hey guys I'm doing a project on Canada's metered internet and I am wonder why U.S hasn't picked up on this scam is there a law or something preventing it from happening? thanks


I donno whats the reason for putting metered internet.. i think these are the steps to charge more from people..

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be various reasons for metered internet. Perceived reduced network load from an ISP, more money for the ISP's and cable owners as they can now charge premiums for usage. Could just be the **AA's getting their hands in there to try to stop pirating. Though this last one would require me to have a tinfoil hat. I'd go with just plain old corporate greed.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Zealand has been on metered internet ever since broadband has become available.

I'm paying 125 NZD (92.4375 U.S. dollars) per month for 7Mbps and 1Mbps up. Real speeds I get is 1MB/s down and 240KB/s up. I pay for 105GB of total traffic. Goes up if I go over that limit*

*Got a 223.08 bill one week (164.96766 U.S. dollars)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay ~$60 a month (with Comcast) for my net. Standard package rates:
Down: ~24Mbps (3MB/s)
Up: ~ 6Mbps (750KB/s)

I can't complain like others about Comcast to be honest, where I live they are actually good. I've had this same connection for around 10 years now and have only had major issues like 3 times. All of which where on their end. And a quick phone call got it fixed each time. Had a tech come out once for no reason since they insisted on checking up etc. but other then that no issues here.

Comcast also meters its network for users too, we get 250gigs per month with 2 grace months if you go over per year. After that their new terms of service grants them the right to shut your internet off and investigate what you are doing that is causing so much traffic.

I've personally never come close to 250gigs in a single month.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I pay ~$60 a month (with Comcast) for my net. Standard package rates:
Down: ~24Mbps (3MB/s)
Up: ~ 6Mbps (750KB/s)

I can't complain like others about Comcast to be honest, where I live they are actually good. I've had this same connection for around 10 years now and have only had major issues like 3 times. All of which where on their end. And a quick phone call got it fixed each time. Had a tech come out once for no reason since they insisted on checking up etc. but other then that no issues here.

Comcast also meters its network for users too, we get 250gigs per month with 2 grace months if you go over per year. After that their new terms of service grants them the right to shut your internet off and investigate what you are doing that is causing so much traffic.

I've personally never come close to 250gigs in a single month.
I dont know where you live but in jersey and TN they never metered me. They just liked to throttle sometimes. I have downloaded way more than 250gb in 1 month from them.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZacTheSin wrote:
New Zealand has been on metered internet ever since broadband has become available.

I'm paying 125 NZD (92.4375 U.S. dollars) per month for 7Mbps and 1Mbps up. Real speeds I get is 1MB/s down and 240KB/s up. I pay for 105GB of total traffic. Goes up if I go over that limit*

*Got a 223.08 bill one week (164.96766 U.S. dollars)

Get a better internet provider.

I'm in AUS, IInet. Paying $90ish a money for ADSL2+(Only get 3Mb/s on speedtest down and around 0.7 up) with 1TB a month download cap.

90 Australian dollars = 122.364294 New Zealand dollars
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