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Trying to find base pointer

 
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OnA1337
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Trying to find base pointer Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm trying to make my own small cheat for one of mmorpgs.

Well...i found address i want to change/freeze andi found a pointer to it.

Unfortunetly it's not static.

Funny thing is - if i go back to character screen the pointer is still valid, but if i log out and log in then it's no longer valid.

I can go to "choose character screen" once, if i go there twice pointer is no longer valid aswell.

Well, the issue is:

- when i try to use "find out what writes to this address" on my pointer and keep changing the value to opcodes pop up - i get no results. I have to relog to get something to show and it's nothing good imo.

I'll add some more details and screen later, because im busy with exams right now.

But for now i would like to ask you - what would you do with non-static pointer if you get no results while performing "find out what writes to this address" on it. And "find out what accesses this address" gives ~100 results ?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If "find out what writes to this address" returns nothing, then you're not performing any actions that writes to that address. Simple as that.

Check you've got the right address, and try the pointer scanner too.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do perform the same action as i did perform before to find the first, not static, pointer.

I get opcode changes only if i re-log or go to "character selection screen" but it is just clearing the memory region and something like that:
Code:


mov [esi eax*4 04],edi


Which im trying to figure if it 'gives' me anything.

Edit.: Pointer scanner ( default one ) gave me 132 pointers, every single pointer has different address.

Ok, here is some explanation:

I don't want to tell name of game nor the 'hack' type or what does it do, because i want it stay private - it's not a big deal but it allows to use one of the premium features of game, and as long as there is no [tut] how to do it then it will remain clientside.

Thing is about an premium item, when you are wering the item the address saying you do wear it gets value of 1 . When you do not wear the item the value is 0.

Simple to find - equip/disequip and search 1/0.

Then i look for pointer, while scanning for opcodes again i equip/disequip the item and i get valid pointer but not static one. And as mentioned before this pointer is only valid for one "character change" on full log out it's not valid.

And im stucked at searching for lv2 pointer. "what does write to that adress" gives no result despite i equip/disequip the premium item - only going to "change character" gives some results but they are useless i think.

I tried "what does access this pointer" and i got like ~20 results, every single of them has offset 24 and CE says that possible pointer value for them is 088ee10 except 3 of them which is 16763008.

While searching using this value i get 64-70 results.

Ofcourse the addresses changes after exiting game but offset is always 24 and always for all of them CE shows same possible pointer address , except 3 of them.

Exactly here im stucked - should i try every single of them?
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

I've (almost) successfuly found the pointer.

The thing is i have list of pointers, exactl 12 pointers.
Everytime i reboot game one of them works, not all - one, sometimes two of them.

What should i think about that? It's not quite finished if everytime i have to look which one will work.

If you have any idea how to work this out , post it please.

Or guide, tutorial or some article what can i do to find one static in such situation will come helpful to me, so if you know post link or name so i wil lfind it myself.[/list]
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